RP issues... balance needed.

Such being the attitudes of LFRP is exactly why neither this character or any of my alts will set foot in that channel.
Lyranne may have been the unassuming spark, but LFRP made the flame.

EDIT: I should probably add- By all means it wasn't Lyranne's fault, what happened couldn't have been predicted.

*fires up the Plague channel again*

*eyes Backstage with longing, too ... *

kongore wrote:

Such being the attitudes of LFRP is exactly why neither this character or any of my alts will set foot in that channel.
Lyranne may have been the unassuming spark, but LFRP made the flame.

EDIT: I should probably add- By all means it wasn't Lyranne's fault, what happened couldn't have been predicted.

In my experience the same thing happens in -any- OOC chat channel over time. Some people troll and flame but the majority just want to chat to their freinds and when said freinds get upset about something they jump in to back them up ...not always having access to all the information that led to the conflict in the first place. Add in the small minority that just like to fan the flames into the mix and we end up with what happened here.

Lets face it, in any group of people there are times when tensions run high. That's just the realities of social interaction.

At the end of the day it is of course up to each person whether they join a channel or not but its seems a little harsh to just say 'i'm not joining -that- channel' just because things occasionally get a little heated. The 'attititude' of most people in LFRP is generaly helpful and mature. I'm sad that there are those who have a more negative perception based on the actions of a few unrepresentative members.

Vypra wrote:

I'm sad that there are those who have a more negative perception based on the actions of a few unrepresentative members.

Such is life, frankly. For example- the Scottish government is working towards an all out bann against airsoft and the replica firearms that go with it all because of the odd Chav walking down the street brandishing an air rifle, pointing and shooting at unsuspecting pedestrians. The result of the government plans is a big uproar from the Scottish Airsofting community. Because of that todler fatality in 2005, the government think all air rifles are weapons of death, which is far from the truth. In airsoft you'd be extremely unlucky if one leaves a small mark, let alone piecing the skin, but no.. the government works towards banning ALL air weapons. Screwing over hundreds if not thousands of players because of some idiots.

I can't say I've not given LFRP its chances, but every time I decide to give it "one more chance" something like this kicks up and I just end up leaving again. Bad timing or bad luck some folk may call it, I'm just full of it. ¬_¬

I loved lfrp, partly because of the fucked up nab discussions that fire up in it. Just tell people to stfu if they're too stupid and if they go too far just kick em.

I seem to have missed all this emo chat.

Then again, I realised that throwing effort into serious RP -- akin, it seems to me, to preparing to act in a Broadway play in front of hundreds of people -- is going to bring with it conflict. On the flipside, that level of concentration required (to emote, to follow conversations, to act) is also why it is not practical when you have 'life' going on around you.

What i really don't understand is how this thread could have possibly got 6 pages of replies.
Is it really something that major to keep talking about for a week (actually 4 days,but meh)?
Some people flame LFRP, others just come here and flame WAL (no offence, but it really looks that way).

Avior wrote:

What i really don't understand is how this thread could have possibly got 6 pages of replies.
Is it really something that major to keep talking about for a week (actually 4 days,but meh)?
Some people flame LFRP, others just come here and flame WAL (no offence, but it really looks that way).

There is a discussion going on if you actually bother reading it, its not all "AMG U RP WHORE DONT /SLAP ME OR U PRP", "UR FACE PRPS LOL".
However I am quite suprised there is quite alot of OOC negativity towards the House, I doubt any member of the House would do something OOC to cause offence, so it seems alot of people are getting OOC irritance from IC actions by them, which is in general is very bad for rp.
People should learn how to keep their IC and OOC emotions seperate, then folk might realise that the House members are actually very nice once you talk to them and instances like this might be settled better rather than threads like this appearing where issues need addressing.

kongore wrote:

There is a discussion going on if you actually bother reading it, its not all "AMG U RP WHORE DONT /SLAP ME OR U PRP", "UR FACE PRPS LOL".

I never said that.
But i actually did read most of it and still haven't found many constructive posts.
Whatever this discussion is about, it doesn't seem to be worth 6 pages.

Avior wrote:

But i actually did read most of it and still haven't found many constructive posts.
Whatever this discussion is about, it doesn't seem to be worth 6 pages.

well, as you've been asking since the opening post what this is all about i'll break it down for you:

- OP ask that we establish some ground rules to try and prevent the kind of troll/ flame fest that occured on Sunday

- this was followed by several suggestions on how to do so

- then came a side disscussion about prp that resulted from a /slap emote.

- thread was dragged back on track by Crowley who asked that everybody just let the ppl whi are actually involved in the situation sort it out among themselves rather than stick their oar in when they know little to nothing about what actually happened.

- on pg5 we all finally found out what kicked the whole thing off

and now we have me saying that this kinda thing happens all the time and ppl shouldn't let the actions of a few colour their perception of the whole commuunity and Kongore commenting as he did.

get it now?

as for whether it deserves a 6 page thread, who are you to decide that? the people who are contributing to it do and that's all that matters. there's nothing forcing you to read it nevermind go to the trouble of commenting and as long as it doesn't degenerate into indescrimnate flaming, i have no issues with poeple using this forum to get things off their chest.

Constructive discussion is never a waste of time to those who feel affected by it

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get it now?

Erm...Thanks for the summary, but as i said i've already read most of that.
And if you really find that constructive...Oh well, i'll better go read something else indeed.

yes, you said you read it...i was trying to summarise in an attempt to work out what it was you failed to understand.

but if you think i'm just wasting your time, then yes, read some other thread

Vypra wrote:

yes, you said you read it...i was trying to summarise in an attempt to work out what it was you failed to understand.

but if you think i'm just wasting your time, then yes, read some other thread

Things that didn't make it to your list (in order of appearance):
— Calippo
— Michael Jackson's funeral
— Quint
— Ice cream
— RPing a war hero
— Quint again
— Frail librarians
— Magnums
And i'm pretty sure i missed a few things.

Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against flaming. On the contrary, you can blame me for flaming way too much and you'll probably be right (i'm actually contributing to it right now). But come on, if this thread isn't off topic then what is? It only took 6 pages not to find an answer to a question stated in the first post...

Anyway, i'm in a bad mood right now so i might sound more offencive than i am and say things i wouldn't want to. So i'm off the discussion for the time being.

Avior wrote:

Vypra wrote:

yes, you said you read it...i was trying to summarise in an attempt to work out what it was you failed to understand.

but if you think i'm just wasting your time, then yes, read some other thread

Things that didn't make it to your list (in order of appearance):
— Calippo
— Michael Jackson's funeral
— Quint
— Ice cream
— RPing a war hero
— Quint again
— Frail librarians
— Magnums
And i'm pretty sure i missed a few things.

Don't get me wrong, i have nothing against flaming. On the contrary, you can blame me for flaming way too much and you'll probably be right (i'm actually contributing to it right now). But come on, if this thread isn't off topic then what is? It only took 6 pages not to find an answer to a question stated in the first post...

Anyway, i'm in a bad mood right now so i might sound more offencive than i am and say things i wouldn't want to. So i'm off the discussion for the time being.

Avi, posting when in a bad mood is not advisable at the best of times (taken from personal experience) but in this case you are also coming across as a bit of an idiot.

You asked the same question as several others of us (asking what it was about) and you got the answer. We then went on to find out more information until eventually we found out the full story.

Sure, some people often decide that posting inanity is a far better way of dealing with what they refer to as "DRAMA" and some people just feel like trolling in a thread that grows as this one did, but this was definitely not a pointless thread as it led to a greater understanding by people who were clearly annoyed by something that happened in game.

Having been away from WAL for several weeks, I have just read this thread for the first time. I would like to (with some trepidation) mention a couple of things that I don't think have been said yet.

I was at the gathering in memory of Quintilius (although not quite to the very end). I think that all of those who took part should be congratulated. What I saw was an interesting RP event. It's not easy at that sort of event for everyone to join in. The typing delays, side conversations, distracting emotes and occasional interruptions from OOCtards make it damn tricky to keep the flow of dialogue going when there are so many characters present. It takes a lot of patience and restraint, and can be still be frustrating.

But from where I was standing (nervously near the fireplace) it worked well. I didn't know Quintilius at all, but I came along to support Deyy (as did Gul'Zayne). I learned a lot about Quint from the fond stories recounted by his friends. The arrival of Archnazg and his followers added an enjoyable tension to the event. And I agree with Lyranne that they did seem like the bullies in the school playground. And a good story needs bullies, baddies, sneaks, creeps and nasties, just as much as it needs heroes.

Finally, it's encouraging to see that a thread here on WAL can sort out misunderstandings. As a community, we have a huge variety of ages, outlooks and RP styles. Yet we can usually manage to resolve these issues by reasonable discussion, or else agree to disagree about things like /slap.

Thanks to everyone who took part.


BTW Magnums are only great if a huge slab of chocolate doesn't fall off!

Ye might aswell.


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